i still don’t get how its bad…
this whole idea of government providing a basic level of health care
aka the “public option”
lets think about
post office, fedex, ups, dhl, etc…
all of these companies ship things, letters, packages
you (the consumer) get to pick from a lineup of potential suitors
the cheapest way to go is… goverment
whereas the other options are more expensive but provide alot more than the cheapest govt run plan…
online tracking, am delivery, same day, etc…
i think the point of the matter is that
govt run plan = the goal is to provide the best whatever (in healthcare the best “care”) at the lowest cost possible, without sacrificing the person factor… ethics and morals
it seems like capitalism is much more greedy than government in the case of insurance, and maybe everything
like think about it
stock holders always want more more more more more…
the rich get richer
they are so separated from what is actually happening that they dont even care
you could be raping grandmothers and getting the stock price up 20% and they dont care
they dont know most of the time
that may be the problem… the separation
like for example, for a health insurance company to make a profit for a quarter on wall street
lets say a potential scenario may be that
they have to drop 5,000 people that have diabetes to avoid later costs because these people are considered “high risk” by their actuaries
the big difference here seems to be morals and ethics
capitalism vs government
greed vs ethics
sometimes, it does seem like that
the government which is run by the people
(voting people of all classes and backgrounds)
typically wants ethics involved in these types of things (fire fighters, police, education (schools and colleges), post office, road systems, etc…)
these types of things should be included with the taxes we pay
these things are important, expected ways of life
the government already does a lot of things, all of which society is in general agreement that some form of it should exist
the government provides a form
that principal, that idea, says government should establish a baseline, and with that, a level of ethics and morals with such a line of business
you shalt not fuck over other people in order to make a profit
shouldn’t that be the only commandment in terms of any health care industry?
the obvious answer is yes
but who the fuck runs this industry?
not normal people… greedy people who dont even know what type of decisions are being made to get that stock price up 10 points
they are looking at the bottom line
up or down?
up or down?
up or down?
fuck everything else…
which is influenced most heavily by wealthy people (large corporations and wealthy individuals) who are primarily seeking the most profit possible for their cause, even at cost of ethics proves you need to strike a balance
profit vs ethics
is it right to 1) be richer 2) help someone else live a longer life
the current model of health care in america says the rich should get richer and drop that high risk person
so the balance in any kind of capitalistic society is actually greed vs ethics
you need to keep ’em honest
you know? anyone for that matter…
balance those greedy fucks with something that keeps them bound to an ethical code
keep them honest though, right?
i can totally understand and relate to valid points against providing health care as a standard
1) super high costs of such a health care system
how the fuck are we going to pay for something that sounds ridiculously expensive????
this was addressed early on by obama… his whole “digitize healthcare” push
we are “spending too much money on paper books and old outdated systems”
and various other ideas about how to save on current costs
but interestingly enough, the health care debate took an unexpected turn…
twitter started twating [sic haha] all over
instead of focusing on
“great idea. but how can we possibly afford something like providing health care to all americans??? i love it but its way too expensive”
the opponents took the approach of
“they want to decide whether or not elderly people can get coverage… form these things called death panels…”
isn’t that what happens today in society with current insurance companies???
we already have death panels
you dumb fucks…
“sorry you have type 2 diabeties. you are a high risk patient and your insurance will now cost an extra $100 a month or we will have to drop you”
becky, not being able to afford the extra $100 a month, dropped her coverage
how is that right?
isn’t health care one of very few things in our society that should be protected?
i bet a lot of people dont know that fire fighters were originally a privately owned industry
in the early days,
if your house was burning down,
you had to subscribe to the “fire figther service”
there was none of this 911 is free bullshit
you gotta pay for your 911 or no one is coming
btw i think gibbs did a good job defending it today… tough job man
moral of the story is:
competition is good
you dont normally think you’d have to explain that to republicans.